[Metalab] E_BROKEN_TOOTH

David Leonardi david.leonardi at gmail.com
Wed Mar 19 17:26:34 CET 2014


I had two cavities treated. One on the side of a molar and one between a
molar and a premolar.
If i remember correctly (its been a while now) i payed around 60 euros, in
the one instance where i payed cash.
This may be more interesting to Yvan:
The second time i used my european health insurance card (issued by a
member state) and did not pay anything at all, so it went directly to my
state-issued insurance.
It required filling in a form (which they conveniently had pre-printed) and
that was it.


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Philip Poten <philip.poten at gmail.com>wrote:

> David, you paid cash, how much did it cost and what was it that you had
> done?
>
> I should have recommended Dr. Marinova specifcally rather than
> Dentalklinik Margarethen as a whole, you're absolutely right.
>
> cheers,
> Philip
>
> 2014-03-19 13:43 GMT+01:00 David Leonardi <david.leonardi at gmail.com>:
> > I can only speak against Dentalklinik Margareten:
> > I had some work done there, and twice out of two the cavity filling fell
> out
> > in a 2 year range.
> > The dentist i'm at now [not in Vienna, so unrelevant] judged the work
> there
> > to have been horrible.
> > I'm not sure who treated me there, but they treated me in under 10
> minutes
> > and it feels like being in a factory rather than in a dentist.
> > Perhaps Dr. Marinova does a better job than the docs who treated me.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Philip Poten <philip.poten at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm a bit late to the discussion, but dentists in Austria are
> >> inexpensive compared to those in countries without "dental included"
> >> public healthcare. An x-ray will cost you less than 40EUR, a half hour
> >> work will probably be around 70-100EUR, depending if you need any
> >> material beyond a pain injection. A friend of mine had a bad tooth and
> >> paid privately all in all 110EUR at Dentalklinik Margarethen.
> >>
> >> If you need just a bit of drilling + filling, you should get away with
> >> <150EUR total, I'd wager it's even <100EUR. If it's prep for a root
> >> canal, it might be on the higher side, but still not what you'd pay in
> >> other countries. A white plastic filling costs between 20-40EUR
> >> (depending on size), a lidocaine injection is around 15-20EUR (except
> >> for root canal prep, where it should be included in the procedure).
> >>
> >> You can also tell them about your situation with your european health
> >> insurance card, and that you'll need a few days to have it sent to
> >> you, and the dentists secretary will then lay away your money as
> >> "collateral" which you'll get back as soon as you bring your EHIC.
> >>
> >> Mind you: with EHIC you'll always pay the country's local fees for a
> >> procedure (in case of austrian dentistry, next to nothing), the real
> >> cost of which will be billed to your origin insurance - if the
> >> procedures are not covered by your origin's insurance, you may get a
> >> bill from them ...
> >>
> >> TLDR; phone in, ask what they'll accept as collateral, bring that,
> >> then tell them that you'll bring by your EHIC, then do it, get your
> >> money back.
> >>
> >> Oh, and I can recommend Dentalklinik Margarethen. Ask for Dr. Marinova
> >> if you can, she really knows what she's doing.
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> Philip
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014-03-19 11:06 GMT+01:00  <BDuN at gmx.net>:
> >> > Never pull out a tooth if there is any chance so rescue and keep it -
> >> > you
> >> > will miss it terribly some day !
> >> >
> >> > I just returned home from hospital after getting some bones from my
> hips
> >> > implanted and fixed to my cheek-bone to fix implants ! Look and walk
> >> > like
> >> > Frankensteins Monster ! (you see, I even type "tental" when thinking
> of
> >> > it
> >> > ... pure horror)
> >> >
> >> > Even the best implants are not half a substitute for an own tooth !
> >> >
> >> > take your documents - insurance, whatever you have  - and go to
> >> > Zahnklinik
> >> > and tell them how terribly you suffer. Even when you have no insurance
> >> > at
> >> > all - when you suffer they cannot send you away ! And the more you
> >> > suffer
> >> > and are able to show a painful face the faster its done, emergency
> cases
> >> > do
> >> > not have to wait ;-) And when you have no money at all then its free !
> >> > The
> >> > worst case is that you go to Sozialamt and present the bill !
> >> >
> >> > there is a rather cheap way to fix broken and sharp edges with a kind
> of
> >> > "half-crown", thats a white liquid-material (instead of Amalgam) that
> >> > fixes
> >> > within minutes and they can form a kind of natural tooth from up to
> 2/3
> >> > of
> >> > the volumne of your (missing) own one .. and its much cheaper, between
> >> > 20
> >> > and 50 Euro (crown costs around 1500,- til endless ... ) Our
> >> > Krankenkassa
> >> > does not cover this (they still pay only Amalgam) but its worth to pay
> >> > this.
> >> > Its called an intermediate solution but mine worked longer than the
> >> > expensive one !
> >> >
> >> > In Russia they work on a project to influence the roots of teeth to
> >> > create
> >> > new ones for a lifetime, like crocodiles ! In theory it already works
> so
> >> > there is a chance for you some day ;-)
> >> >
> >> > good luck brother
> >> > I am with you ;-)
> >> > B.,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. März 2014 um 10:08 Uhr
> >> >
> >> > Von: "Yvan Janssens" <ik at yvanj.me>
> >> > An: "Metalab General Discussion List" <metalab at lists.metalab.at>
> >> > Betreff: Re: [Metalab] E_BROKEN_TOOTH
> >> > How much should I be able to shove off to get it pulled?
> >> >
> >> > Well... it doesn't really hurt a lot - I've been through more severe
> >> > pains
> >> > (the last time I went to an emergency visit to the dentist I burned
> >> > myself
> >> > on purpose to distract myself from the pain), and this tooth has it's
> >> > nerve
> >> > removed. The biggest problem is the sharp edge cutting in my tonge and
> >> > me
> >> > being unable to pronounce half of my vocabulary anymore.
> >> >
> >> > It's really painful not to be able to curse anymore.
> >> >
> >> > 2014-03-19 10:01 GMT+01:00 <BDuN at gmx.net>:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Yvan,
> >> >>
> >> >>  I have a long-term sado-maso-relationship with all kind of tental
> >> >> horrors
> >> >> you can imagine, including the financial part ..
> >> >>
> >> >> Call there : http://www.unizahnklinik-wien.at/de/
> >> >>
> >> >> and ask them - maybe you will have to pay first but get something
> back
> >> >> but
> >> >> anyway they will be the cheapest
> >> >> tell them it hurts terribly then you dont have to wait !
> >> >>
> >> >> good luck - I am with you :D
> >> >>
> >> >> B.
> >> >>
> >> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. März 2014 um 09:51 Uhr
> >> >> Von: "Yvan Janssens" <ik at yvanj.me>
> >> >> An: "Metalab General Discussion List" <metalab at lists.metalab.at>
> >> >> Betreff: Re: [Metalab] E_BROKEN_TOOTH
> >> >> I have the Belgian nationality, but a permanent UK residence.
> >> >>
> >> >> And of course my card is still in my drawer at home during this one
> >> >> trip.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2014-03-19 9:47 GMT+01:00 Mynnia Ignea <mynnia at gmail.com>:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Does your health insurance not cover medical services abroad?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> How do you solve that problem as a non-Austrian?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> And how much would that cost me?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> (I was planning to visit the space yesterday, but E_OUT_OF_SLEEP
> >> >>> prevented me, and probably E_BROKEN_TOOTH will prevent me from doing
> >> >>> that
> >> >>> today)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ~y
> >> >>>
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> >> >>>
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