[Metalab] Vienna IT field salaries (Was: Metalab General Discussion List <metalab at lists.metalab.at>)

[berni t]

Your arguments are a bit hard Sergey. I think you have the one or other interesting point but overall you come across as if you can proove everything by just insisting.

You cannot oversee that rent in Vienna in general is cheaper than in London. I mean come on alot of us lived there and the cheap options we all know about.
Karlsplatz is also an option, right.

Here, like in other cities you can create your own space, choose if you wanna live alone or with another to have half rent and still live in a decent place,
London is horrible like that, dude I lived there for 2 years.

The supermarkets in London are surely even crappier than here. There is great food to be bought in places like London or NY but it costs!

Of course the nightlife is better and fashion is cooler and we are always behind things about 2 years, I also think thats true.
The most important to me is to move around and see different places.

Austria surely has it's own character and that is called: Gemütlichkeit. And there is nothing to change it (unfortunately)

We could go on and on. I think the Kiwi got some good advice and a starting point how the system works here.

good day

> From: sergey at mikhanov.com
> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 13:52:56 +0200
> To: metalab at lists.metalab.at
> Subject: Re: [Metalab] Vienna IT field salaries (Was: Metalab General	Discussion List <metalab at lists.metalab.at>)
> 
> >> Displaimer: I'm an immigrant myself, came from Moscow four years ago,
> >> so expect a bit of rant below.
> >
> > You are already assimilated: Complaining on a high level is so austrian ;-)
> 
> I can go as low level as... Wait, what?
> 
> > My advise, and the way I'm living, go for a four-day-week or even tree days,
> > be happy with little less money (2000-2400 should still be doable for us)
> > and enjoy your life or work one something awesome funny in your spare time.
> > That little extra (netto) money isn't worth a 40h week.
> 
> Glad you have mentioned that. Look how gently you have been pushed one
> step closer to the Karlsplatz passage folks. "Tomas, there's no need
> to work hard, you won't get any reward anyway". That's sooooo good for
> you in particular and local economy in general, you know.
> 
> > It reminds me of a very similar discussion on the London's Ruby User Group list
> > and James pretty much got it right:
> > http://lists.lrug.org/htdig.cgi/chat-lrug.org/2008-March/002092.html
> 
> It's great to have the choice whether you want to earn more or not.
> This choice exists in London: you may be Ruby-hip with 35K and
> Java-enterprisy-uncool with 70K. You may even be
> sold-my-sold-to-top-tier-hedge-fund with 90K. In Vienna a combination
> of tax law and job market effectively made this choice for you.
> 
> Basically what you say only confirms my point: the salaries ARE low
> and employed professional cannot do anything about it.
> 
> Cheers,
> Sergey
> 
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